Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

03/27/2007 03:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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03:48:13 PM SB128
04:27:47 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    SENATE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                  
                         March 27, 2007                                                                                         
                           3:46 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donny Olson, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator Albert Kookesh, Vice Chair                                                                                              
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Thomas Wagoner                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 128                                                                                                             
"An  Act relating  to  the sale,  distribution,  and purchase  of                                                               
alcoholic beverages; relating to a  state database for records of                                                               
certain alcoholic  purchases of alcoholic beverages;  relating to                                                               
procedures for  local option elections  for control  of alcoholic                                                               
beverages; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
     MOVED CSSB 128(CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 128                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ALCOHOL LOCAL OPTION PROVISIONS                                                                                    
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) OLSON                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/19/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/19/07       (S)       CRA, JUD, FIN                                                                                          
03/27/07       (S)       CRA AT 3:30 PM BELTZ 211                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TALIS COLBERG, Attorney General                                                                                                 
Co-Chair, Alaska Rural Justice and Law Enforcement Commission                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ANNE CARPENETI, Attorney                                                                                                        
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a sectional analysis of SB 128.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DARWIN PETERSON, Staff                                                                                                          
to Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KEITH MALLARD, Commander                                                                                                        
Alaska Bureau of Alcohol and Drug Enforcement                                                                                   
Alaska State Troopers                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding SB 128.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
BILL ROCHE, Chief Enforcement Officer                                                                                           
Alcohol Beverage Control Board                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding SB 128.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
KAREN BITZER, Executive Director                                                                                                
Alaska Rural Justice and Law Enforcement Commission                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LORETTA BULLARD, President                                                                                                      
Kawerak, Inc.                                                                                                                   
Nome, Alaska                                                                                                                    
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DIANE KELLER, Mayor                                                                                                             
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JIM WOOD, Senior Vice President                                                                                                 
Meritage Development Group                                                                                                      
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JIM STEVENS, Leasing Manager                                                                                                    
Browman Development                                                                                                             
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Spoke in favor of SB 128.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DONNY OLSON called the Senate Community and Regional                                                                    
Affairs Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:46:40 PM.                                                                    
Senators Kookesh  and Olson  were present at  the call  to order.                                                               
Senator Thomas arrived shortly thereafter.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
             SB 128-ALCOHOL LOCAL OPTION PROVISIONS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KOOKESH moved to adopt  the committee substitute (CS) for                                                               
SB  128, labeled  25-LS0742\C,  Bullard.  Hearing no  objections,                                                               
Version C was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:48:13 PM                                                                                                                    
GINNY  AUSTERMAN, Staff  to Senator  Olson, presented  SB 128  on                                                               
behalf of Senator Olson:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Alaska,  along  with  many  other states,  finds  itself  in  the                                                               
position  of needing  to protect  residents of  rural communities                                                               
from bootleggers  of alcohol.  Various alcohol  abuse educational                                                               
programs  have been  in place  in rural  Alaska for  a number  of                                                               
years, but they  have not served to halt  the illegal importation                                                               
and sale of  alcohol to Alaska's rural communities.  SB 128 curbs                                                               
bootlegging  by allowing  the  Alcoholic  Beverage Control  (ABC)                                                               
Board, at the request of  the communities of Bethel and Kotzebue,                                                               
to  establish  pilot alcohol  delivery  sites.  If opened,  these                                                               
sites would operate for a period of three years.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senate Bill 128 is aimed  at preventing bootleggers from ordering                                                               
alcohol from  numerous package stores  in violation of  the local                                                               
option.  Alcohol Local  Option  Provisions require  that the  ABC                                                               
Board, in  conjunction with package  store licensees,  create and                                                               
maintain  a  database  documenting the  sale,  distribution,  and                                                               
purchase  of  alcoholic  beverages,   ordered  in  writing,  from                                                               
persons  residing in  damp local  option communities.   The  bill                                                               
requires  that  a  package  store  consult  the  database  before                                                               
filling  a written  order from  a  person residing  in the  local                                                               
option  area. The  database will  be available  to package  store                                                               
licensees  and  their  agents   and  employees,  law  enforcement                                                               
officers,  probation  and parole  officers,  and  the ABC  Board.                                                               
Information in the database will not be available to the public.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The bill  also corrects  an inadequacy in  state liquor  law that                                                               
hampers  the   ability  of  large  hub   communities  to  attract                                                               
investment  in   family-oriented  restaurants.  There   are  [no]                                                               
allowances  for the  transfer  of  a borough  license  to a  city                                                               
within the borough's  borders in order to meet  public demand and                                                               
promote economic development.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON noted  a letter from the Tanana  Chiefs Conference in                                                               
support of SB 128.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TALIS  COLBERG, Attorney  General  Designee and  Co-Chair of  the                                                               
Alaska Rural Justice Commission,  said the commission has focused                                                               
on four  areas of  concern in  the past  two years,  with alcohol                                                               
interdiction as  one. It formed  working groups across  the state                                                               
and  came  up  with  about   100  action  options  including  the                                                               
provisions  in SB  128. The  bill seeks  to interdict  alcohol in                                                               
rural  Alaska with:  a statewide  database  for tracking  alcohol                                                               
shipments; modifications to  forfeiture; and restricted shipments                                                               
to damp  communities. He  added that  the bill  prohibits package                                                               
stores from shipping  alcohol in response to  written orders from                                                               
a person residing in a local  option area. It allows the transfer                                                               
of  liquor  licenses  in  large  hub  communities.  SB  128  also                                                               
prohibits  persons from  purchasing  alcoholic  beverages from  a                                                               
person who is  selling alcohol in violation of  the local option,                                                               
and it addresses  "other provisions in the law to  try to enhance                                                               
the  ability  of local  communities  to  better serve  the  local                                                               
population."  The  bill   is  a  final  work   product  from  the                                                               
commission,  he said.  The commission  is  out of  money and  the                                                               
executive  director,   Ms.  Bitzer,  has  been   working  without                                                               
compensation for  two months.  She has offered  to see  this work                                                               
through. He expressed the need for supplemental funding.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:53:41 PM                                                                                                                    
ANNE CARPENETI,  Attorney, Criminal Division, Department  of Law,                                                               
said  Sections  1 and  2  of  SB 128  require  the  ABC board  to                                                               
establish  a   database  to  record  written   orders  from  damp                                                               
communities. Licensees  would be  required to check  the database                                                               
prior to filling  orders for alcohol shipments "to  ensure that a                                                               
person  has  not  made  several  orders  from  several  different                                                               
licensees in  excess of  the amount that  is the  presumption for                                                               
possession  with intent  to sell."  Section 3  prohibits shipping                                                               
alcohol  to any  address other  than  the address  of the  person                                                               
ordering the alcohol, unless there  is a community delivery site,                                                               
"in  which case,  under current  law, they  would be  required to                                                               
send the alcohol to the  community delivery site." Sections 4 and                                                               
5 were  added by  request of  Senator Green.  Places with  a city                                                               
government within  a borough  will be able  to transfer  a liquor                                                               
license from the  surrounding borough to the city  if approved by                                                               
the  local  governing  bodies.  This  language  is  to  encourage                                                               
economic development and vibrant downtown areas, she stated.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:56:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THOMAS  said the bill  restricts the sale of  alcohol but                                                               
Sections  4  and  5  expand  it.  He  surmised  it  loosened  the                                                               
transferability of liquor  licenses between a borough  and a city                                                               
inside the borough and did not expand the number of licenses.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI agreed.  The city and borough  government must both                                                               
approve   the  transfer.   She   said   there  were   family-type                                                               
restaurants in  downtown Wasilla that  would like to  add alcohol                                                               
to their menus.  There are licenses available  in the surrounding                                                               
borough but none for downtown, she explained.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:58:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CARPENETI  said Sections 6, 7,  11, and 12 prohibit  a person                                                               
from  purchasing alcohol  from  a bootlegger  in  violation of  a                                                               
local option. It  is now illegal to sell alcohol  but not illegal                                                               
to purchase alcohol from a bootlegger.  It would become a Class A                                                               
misdemeanor for  the buyer, and  the bootlegger would  be subject                                                               
to a  Class C felony.  Section 8 extends  the time after  a local                                                               
option election  before another  one could be  held to  remove or                                                               
reduce the  level of the local  option. It also provides  that an                                                               
election removing  or reducing  a local option  may be  held only                                                               
once in every 36-month period.  Section 9 prohibits a person from                                                               
buying  alcohol  on  behalf  of  a person  who  lives  in  a  dry                                                               
community.  Section  10  prohibits  a  person  living  in  a  dry                                                               
community  from  possessing  ingredients or  equipment  with  the                                                               
intent  to  create  homebrew.  Sections   13  and  14  amend  the                                                               
forfeiture  provisions to  allow forfeiture  of the  alcohol that                                                               
was purchased  in violation. Section  15 allows the ABC  board to                                                               
establish  pilot  delivery  sites   in  Kotzebue  and  Bethel  if                                                               
requested by the local government.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:01:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KOOKESH  asked  for the  definition  of  an  established                                                               
village.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said it is  a term used  in the local  option law,                                                               
which is  found in AS04.11.491.  It has  been used by  courts and                                                               
law enforcement.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DARWIN PETERSON,  Staff to  Senator Lyda  Green, said  Sections 4                                                               
and 5 were  added to accommodate Fairbanks and  the Mat-Su, which                                                               
have the need  to transfer existing licenses from  the borough to                                                               
within the city. There is  no expansion, just more flexibility to                                                               
manage liquor licenses, he stated.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked if there has been any opposition.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON said he has not heard from anyone.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked if the sections have any broader effects.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON  said it just  affects organized boroughs,  and both                                                               
governing bodies and the ABC would have to approve the transfer.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked the reason for the initial prohibition.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON said  the City of Wasilla brought  the limitation to                                                               
the  attention of  Senator Green  when  it was  trying to  expand                                                               
development. Chili's and Applebee's weren't  able to set up shop,                                                               
he said. He didn't know the history of the original law.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:04:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THOMAS  asked if  the licenses  could be  transferred the                                                               
other direction-from the city to the borough.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETERSON said yes, as long as both bodies approve it.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked how individual civil rights are protected.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said that issue  has been litigated and  the local                                                               
options laws have been upheld by the courts.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   OLSON   asked   if  she   expects   any   litigation   on                                                               
constitutional grounds for SB 128.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  said anybody  can file a  lawsuit, "but  I believe                                                               
that  since we  have prevailed  in  other areas  of local  option                                                               
litigation, I believe we would also prevail here."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS asked  about  the  limits of  no  more than  10.5                                                               
liters of distilled spirits, 24 liters  of wine and 12 gallons of                                                               
malt beverages, and he surmised it is based on alcohol content.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:07:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. CARPENETI  said that  is existing law,  and she  believes the                                                               
senator is correct.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KEITH MALLARD, Captain,  Alaska State Troopers, said  he has been                                                               
with the  troopers for 11  years and he  has worked in  Aniak. He                                                               
currently   supervises  the   Western  Alcohol   Enforcement  and                                                               
Narcotics team.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  why he  would think  the distribution  center                                                               
would work in Bethel and  Kotzebue, "especially since you've been                                                               
up in Aniak."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  MALLARD said  it provides  a place  where there  will be                                                               
local  knowledge  of  who actually  lives  in  those  communities                                                               
versus in the outlying or local option communities.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON said  there have  been  attempts to  break into  the                                                               
distribution center in Barrow. They  are so visible, he said, and                                                               
he asked how those problems can be worked out.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:08:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CAPTAIN MALLARD said he would handle it like any other burglary.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  if he  anticipated the  same success  rate as                                                               
Barrow.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN MALLARD said  he can't speak to the success  rates in the                                                               
North Slope Borough.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  ROCHE,  Chief   Enforcement  Officer,  Alcohol  Beverage                                                               
Control  (ABC) Board,  said moving  licenses  between cities  and                                                               
boroughs was supported by the ABC board in February.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  asked  about any  comments  from  "the  cabaret,                                                               
hotel, restaurant folks."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROCHE said  he believes they were informed  and haven't given                                                               
any comments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:10:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked about alcoholic beverages on a ship in port.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ROCHE said  cruise ships  have Alaska  liquor licenses,  and                                                               
they obtain  the beverages from  Alaska licensed  wholesalers. It                                                               
is a very sophisticated business, he stated.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  asked  about  an icebreaker  heading  out  for  the                                                               
Northwest Passage but gets stuck  between Kotzebue and Barrow and                                                               
needs to purchase more alcohol for the trip.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROCHE  said he has  been with the  ABC board since  1979, and                                                               
such a situation has never occurred.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:12:57 PM                                                                                                                    
LORETTA   BULLARD,  President,   Kawerak,  a   regional  services                                                               
consortium for the Bering Straits,  said she serves on the Alaska                                                               
Rural  Justice  and  Law   Enforcement  Commission.  Alcohol  and                                                               
substance abuse  is the nucleus of  suicides, homicides, neglect,                                                               
domestic  violence, accidental  deaths  and  injuries, and  child                                                               
sexual  abuse in  rural Alaska.  It is  the sole  cause of  fetal                                                               
alcohol syndrome.  She estimates that  90 percent of  the inmates                                                               
in the  Anvil Mountain Correctional  Center are serving  time for                                                               
offenses conducted under the influence  of alcohol, for consuming                                                               
alcohol while on  probation, or for importing  or brewing alcohol                                                               
in violation of  local option laws. The  increase in correctional                                                               
expenditures  is  huge, she  said.  She  supports SB  128,  which                                                               
includes  practical  solutions developed  as  part  of the  Rural                                                               
Justice and Law Enforcement work group process.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:14:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BULLARD  described the  provisions in SB  128. In  the Bering                                                               
Straits  region  alcohol  is shipped  into  wet  communities  and                                                               
individuals from dry communities come  by boat or snow machine to                                                               
get it.  She noted that Barrow  set up an alcohol  delivery site,                                                               
which  has been  a huge  success in  controlling the  delivery of                                                               
alcohol. She said  the bill focuses on the supply  issue, and she                                                               
encouraged  the legislature  to make  funds available  to address                                                               
the demand  for and  treatment for  alcohol and  substance abuse.                                                               
She sent in a list of  other options developed by the work group,                                                               
and she  wants the committee to  know there are many  more ideas,                                                               
including early intervention.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BULLARD noted that the commission  is out of money because of                                                               
the federal "no earmarks" policy.  She asked for stop-gap funding                                                               
to allow the commission to do their work.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  said  bootlegging  has  been  around  since  before                                                               
statehood, and  he asked  what makes  her think  this legislation                                                               
will help "with some of the problems that are out there."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:18:23 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. BULLARD said there is currently  no control in the amounts of                                                               
liquor that  people can import  into damp communities.  There are                                                               
plane  loads, she  stated,  and there  are  alcohol runs  between                                                               
communities. The bill is a step in the right direction.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DIANE KELLER,  Mayor, City  of Wasilla,  said Wasilla  is growing                                                               
rapidly  and expecting  1.2  million square  feet  of new  retail                                                               
development by  2009. The city  has been approached by  chain and                                                               
local restaurants  for help in  getting liquor  licenses. Wasilla                                                               
has  only three  beverage dispensary  licenses for  purchase. The                                                               
city would have  to grow to 24,000 people  before getting another                                                               
one. The  value of the  licenses are  in the mid-six  figures and                                                               
too  costly for  restaurants. She  said the  transferred licenses                                                               
wouldn't  be  used   for  bars  but  to  "make   for  a  pleasant                                                               
environment for a family to have dinner."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:21:58 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked if more licenses could be issued.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR KELLER  said Wasilla  doesn't need  more licenses;  it just                                                               
needs to use the ones that are out there.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON said the market is driving the licenses up.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR KELLER  said there are  licenses, but they can't  come into                                                               
the city because it is a population-based program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:23:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MAYOR  KELLER said  she knows  two business  owners who  now hold                                                               
licenses  are  not opposed  to  the  language. The  other  hasn't                                                               
decided, but there is no active opposition that she is aware of.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JIM  WOOD, Senior  Vice  President,  Meritage Development  Group,                                                               
said  he is  putting in  two developments  in Wasilla  worth $160                                                               
million.  He is  working  with  Applebee's restaurant  contingent                                                               
upon getting  a liquor  license. His  type of  development hasn't                                                               
been done in  Alaska; it is more of a  lifestyle center, he said.                                                               
He can't get the restaurant without the liquor license.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JIM  STEVENS, Leasing  Manager, Browman  Development, said  he is                                                               
working on  a shopping  mall and  would like  to have  a sit-down                                                               
restaurant  there,  but  he  can't attract  them  until  this  is                                                               
resolved.  Restaurants  have  tremendous  costs  and  to  add  an                                                               
exorbitant cost  of a  liquor license  is prohibitive.  The trade                                                               
area of Wasilla  is 80,000 people, but liquor  licenses are based                                                               
on the population of 8,000 people, he explained.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:26:41 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KOOKESH  moved CSSB  128(CRA), labeled  25-LS0742\C, from                                                               
committee  with  individual   recommendations  and  attached  the                                                               
fiscal note(s). There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 4:27:47 PM.                                                                                      

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